Talk:Suggestions
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FON in general
Bazaar prinziple apply to FON
- make the whole software world of FON (Fonera firmware, Web pages, CMS etc.) Open Source and switch their development process to a community driven one (Bazaar prinziple). This should be accompanied with the respective discussion infrastructure (Mailing list, Board etc.). This "Bazaar" principle works already well in this wiki.
- Advantages: Implementation of many features may be done by the community, open discussion of implementation details in the development process, avoiding usability mistakes etc.
- Disadvantage: Need to approve all changes.
--Olebole 10:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
discarded
- Provide tests that can be done by the hotspot owner to check the security of the internet connection (see Community Security/de#Betreiben des FON-Spots for risks). This can be done either as a program (better) or as a detailed checklist, like
- if you are on a german T-online hotspot, check your webmail account for password (a program could identify t-onlie with the IP-address and automatically try to access webmail)
- if you are on KabelDeutschland, check whether one can reach the service pages without password (analogous: check whether the IP is a KabelDeutschland one and then try to access these pages)
- always check whether one can reach common SIP provider without the password (dus.net was an example here)
--Olebole 09:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC) answer >> This is exactly what the Wiki is for. We can not know or even check those ISP configurations. If any user has a concrete issue (like the access to an ISPs management page, he should contact the support team and we will see, if it is possible to blacklist that page.
answer from olebole >> Problem with this is to reach the average Joe User who even does not even remember where his telephone is connected to. Also there is some systematics needed to find these holes before someone abused them. What about contacting the major providers about this topic?
- one can not view all hotspots in a town... as soon as one zooms out it doesn't show any hotspots.
answer >> sorry, this is a technical limitation, the same as only 200 Spots are shown at a time.
- not all locations which have a fonspot gets a "zoom" icon
answer >> there is one zoom icon for each area. The areas are predefined by Google maps, we don't have any influence on that.
answer from skynetbbs >> http://labs.ceek.jp/fon/ can only show 200 Spots as well...but it shows full screen and has no "zoom" issues... It's in Japanese... doesn't show public pages ... and the author doesn't respond on my emails :(
My FON (User Zone)
The La Fonera (features & interface)
- Bridge between FON_AP/LAN to put kiosk pc's onto the FON domain (and use it's bill/filter platform as well :-)
answer >> I don't get the goal of this feature. Could you give more details? --Inouk 14:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- The Fonera+ & Fonera 2.0 could bridge FON_AP & LAN instead of MyPlace & LAN. Doing this would make it possible that people can add a Wifi-N AP on the LAN connector; or put a switch and 16 pc's on the LAN connector and everyone connected would get the "please fill in your fon account to continue surfing"...
- This feature is possible on ROBIN firmware... not yet on FON firmware
- The Fonera+ & Fonera 2.0 could bridge FON_AP & LAN instead of MyPlace & LAN. Doing this would make it possible that people can add a Wifi-N AP on the LAN connector; or put a switch and 16 pc's on the LAN connector and everyone connected would get the "please fill in your fon account to continue surfing"...
--Skynetbbs 21:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry for my poor English, I'm using "Google Translate" :-)
Thank to developers of the Fonera2. This proposal relates to the Fonera2.
The problem is this. The internet access is through a modem-router. The modem-router assigns IP addresses to connected computers. This forms a first subnet. Generally, this subnet is 192.168.1.0/24. Because the WAN interface (eth0.1 or ath2) of the Fonera2 is connected to this modem-router, the WAN interface has an address like 192.168.1.X.
LAN interfaces (eth0.0) and MyPlace (ath1) form a bridge named br-lan. The IP address of this bridge is 192.168.10.1. The computers on the LAN and the computers on MyPlace have IP addresses on the subnet 192.168.10.0/24. This forms a second subnet.
The use of different subnets cause communication problems between computers. The computers on the first subnet can not see computers on the second subnet.
Proposed solution : to make the Fonera2 a "overall bridge" between the WAN, LAN and MyPlace interfaces. With this "overall bridge", all computers are on the same subnet, thus makes easy the configuration of the network : a single subnet, a single DHCP server (the modem-router), a single gateway to the Internet, and all the computers can talk to each other easily.
Thanks!
KingKong 13:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that's an interesting feature, it's on our todo list. Also mentioned here
--Inouk 08:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
